Updated Feb 11, 2022
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This section contains the following topics:
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1. General Information About SSA Requests for the Amount of VA Benefits an SSI Claimant Receives
Introduction |
This topic contains general information about SSA requests for the amount of VA benefits an SSI claimant receives, including
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Change Date |
June 14, 2015 |
XIII.ii.1.B.1.c. Types of Benefits SSA Recognizes as VA Income |
SSA recognizes the disability or death benefits VA pays to an SSI claimant as income for SSA purposes. SSA also recognizes the following benefits that VA pays as income for SSA purposes:
The table below describes relevant information about the latter three benefits.
References: For more information on
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XIII.ii.1.B.1.d. Types of Benefits SSA Does Not Recognize as VA Income |
SSA does not recognize VA educational benefits or Medal of Honor Pension as income for the purpose of determining a claimant’s entitlement to SSI. Nevertheless, SSA wants to know if an SSI claimant received either of these benefits during the time period SSA specifies in Part I of SSA Form L1103.
Use the table below if the corporate record shows an SSI claimant received educational benefits or Medal of Honor Pension during the time period SSA specified.
Important: If a Veteran is entitled to both Medal of Honor Pension and disability compensation or pension, VA pays both benefits to the Veteran in a single award. Regardless of whether a Veteran received this benefit by itself or in combination with disability compensation or pension, exclude it when calculating the Veteran’s VA income for SSA purposes.
Reference: For more information on Medal of Honor Pension, see M21-1, Part XIII, Subpart i, 6.
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XIII.ii.1.B.1.e. Recurring Versus Non-Recurring Benefit Payments |
A response to an SSA inquiry on SSA Form L1103 typically requires consideration of recurring benefit payments only.
Notes:
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XIII.ii.1.B.1.f. Determining the Date and Amount of Non-Recurring Benefit Payments |
Perform a payment inquiry through the Share application to determine the date and amount of any non-recurring benefit payment VA made if, during the time period SSA specified in Part I of SSA Form L1103, VA authorized
Note: Non-recurring, one-time payments appear as type CP-ONE-T on the PAYMENT HISTORY INQUIRY screen.
Reference: For more information on using Share for payment inquiries, see the Share User Guide.
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XIII.ii.1.B.1.g. Handling SSA Requests for Payment Information on Multiple SSI Claimants |
SSA may simultaneously request payment information on multiple SSI claimants, listing in Part I of SSA Form L1103 the names of claimants for whom it is requesting information.
VA must provide the requested information for each SSI claimant SSA lists on the form. If the response will not fit in the space provided on SSA Form L1103, attach a continuation sheet and transfer the following identification information from the top of SSA Form L1103 to the top of the continuation sheet:
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XIII.ii.1.B.1.h. Handling SSA Inquiries Involving Nursing Home Patients |
If SSA indicates on SSA Form L1103 that an SSI claimant is a nursing home patient, and the claimant receives current-law pension in excess of $90.00 per month, determine whether reduction under 38 U.S.C. 5503(f) is in order.
Regional office (RO) management must ensure other divisions that process SSA Form L1103 are aware they must refer the form to the Veterans Service Center or pension management center when the circumstances described in the above paragraph exist.
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XIII.ii.1.B.1.i. Calculations That Result in a Negative Amount of VA Income for SSA Purposes |
If any of the calculations described in this section result in a negative amount of VA income for SSA purposes, consider the income to be $0.00.
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XIII.ii.1.B.1.j. Work Credit for Responding to SSA |
Each time an RO completes and returns SSA Form L1103 to SSA, the RO should clear end product 290 for proper work credit, using the claim label SSA Request for VA Benefit Information. |
2. Considering Offsets, Deductions, and Withholdings When Calculating VA Income for SSA Purposes
Introduction |
This topic contains instructions for considering offsets, deductions, and withholdings when calculating VA income for SSA purposes, including |
Change Date |
June 14, 2015 |
XIII.ii.1.B.2.a. Determining Whether an Offset, Deduction, or Withholding Exists |
When calculating an SSI claimant’s VA income for SSA purposes, always perform a corporate inquiry in Share and check the AWARD INFORMATION tab to determine whether, during the time period SSA specified in Part I of SSA Form L1103,
References: For more information on
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XIII.ii.1.B.2.b. Offsets, Deductions, and Withholdings That Must Not Be Included in Calculations of VA Income for SSA Purposes |
If VA offset, deducted, or withheld benefits during the time period SSA specified in Part I of SSA Form L1103 for any of the following reasons, do not include in the calculation of VA income for SSA purposes the amount of benefits VA offset, withheld, or deducted for that reason:
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XIII.ii.1.B.2.c. Offsets, Deductions, and Withholdings That Must Be Included in Calculations of VA Income for SSA Purposes |
If VA offset, deducted, or withheld benefits during the time period SSA specified in Part I of SSA Form L1103 for any reason other than those listed in M21-1, Part XIII, Subpart ii, 1.B.2.b, include in the calculation of VA income for SSA purposes the amount of benefits VA offset, withheld, or deducted each month for that reason. The most common of these reasons are
Important: If VA withheld benefits to recoup a compensation or pension receivable during the time period SSA specified, request from finance activity the information required to complete the fields in Part II, Section G, of SSA Form L1103.
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3. Considering the Additional Benefits VA Pays for Dependents and Benefits VA Pays to Apportionees
Introduction |
This topic discusses how to treat the additional benefits VA pays to beneficiaries for their dependents and benefits VA pays to apportionees when calculating VA income for SSA purposes, including
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Change Date |
June 14, 2015 |
XIII.ii.1.B.3.a. Exclusions From the Calculation of VA Income for SSA Purposes |
When calculating VA income for SSA purposes for a Veteran or surviving spouse, exclude as income the amount of additional benefits VA pays the beneficiary for dependent(s).
Exceptions:
Important: If the amount of an apportionment to a dependent is less than the amount of additional benefits VA paid the Veteran or surviving spouse for the dependent, the difference between the two amounts must be included in the calculation of the Veteran’s or surviving spouse’s VA income for SSA purposes.
References: For more information on the two-year transitional benefit VA pays to certain surviving spouses that are entitled to DIC, see
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XIII.ii.1.B.3.b. Completing Part II, Section D, of SSA Form L1103 |
Follow the steps in the table below if
Note: The instructions in this block are based on an assumption that VA did not offset, withhold, or deduct benefits for any of the reasons described in M21-1, Part XIII, Subpart ii, 1.B.2 during the time period SSA specified in Part I of SSA Form L1103.
Important:
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4. Excluding Additional Benefits VA Pays in the Form of SMC or Because an Individual Is Housebound or Requires A&A
Change Date |
June 14, 2015 |
XIII.ii.1.B.4.a. Excluding Additional Benefits VA Pays in the Form of SMC or Because an Individual Is Housebound or Requires A&A |
When calculating the VA income of a Veteran, surviving spouse, parent, or dependent, exclude any additional benefits VA paid
Examples: The table below describes examples of the application of the principles described in this block. When results are provided in these examples, they are based on an assumption that VA did not offset, withhold, or deduct benefits for any of the reasons described in M21-1, Part XIII, Subpart ii, 1.B.2 during the time period SSA specified in Part I of SSA Form L1103.
Reference: For more information on the effect that a finding of entitlement to additional benefits for being housebound or in need of A&A has on the calculation of VA income for SSA purposes, see
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5. Excluding UMEs When Calculating VA Income for SSA Purposes
Introduction |
This topic contains information about the exclusion of additional benefits that VA pays for UMEs when calculating VA income for SSA purposes, including
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Change Date |
June 14, 2015 |
XIII.ii.1.B.5.a. Calculating VA Income for SSA Purposes When VA Pays Additional Benefits for UMEs |
The additional pension or Parent’s DIC that VA pays to a beneficiary because he/she incurred unreimbursed medical expenses (UMEs) is not countable as VA income for SSA purposes.
Example:
Scenario:
Result: The Veteran’s VA income for SSA purposes is $150.00 per month.
Note: The submission of UMEs by beneficiaries in receipt of Section 306 or Old-Law Pension does not increase the amount of benefits VA currently pays these beneficiaries. However, for the purpose of reducing income for VA purposes (IVAP) for a specified period of time, VA does consider UMEs that a beneficiary in receipt of Section 306 Pension submits. (UMEs are not a factor in calculating IVAP when the benefit is Old-Law Pension.)
Reference: For more information on UMEs with,
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XIII.ii.1.B.5.b. Completing Part II, Section F, of SSA Form L1103 |
Enter in Part II, Section F, of SSA Form L1103 the amount of additional monthly benefits VA paid a beneficiary because of UMEs only if SSA entered a date in the opening sentence of Section F.
Example: In the scenario described in M21-1, Part XIII, Subpart ii, 1.B.5.a, the amount of additional monthly benefits VA paid because of UMEs is $50.00.
Important: If a beneficiary has one or more dependents, do not attempt to
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